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• If there will be a sufficient request, someone will built them.

  on Owners mourn spoiled food after firmware update bricks Samsung smart fridges in c/technology@lemmy.world · 14h ago

• Forcing young people into a uniform serves no useful purpose at all.

  You are looking from the wrong point of view, it has a purpose: to level the children to avoid that the “rich” kids look down on the “poor” kid that cannot (or does not care) have the last trendy outfit.

  I was in such situation back at the time, I was in a private school that have many rich kids and while I almost never cared about what I was wearing and thankfully I never had any problems, in other classes there were incidents caused by a rich kid bulling a “poor” (relatively, the school has a price that keep out trully poor families, so the poor was only less rich in this context) kid for the outfit.

  And seeing what kids wear to school nowday, a uniform is the lesser devil in my opinion.

  Also, wearing a school uniform sometimes build also a sense of appartence that is not a bad thing.

  on Schools must offer girls the option to wear trousers under new guidance from the Education Minister in c/europe@feddit.org · 1d ago

• You know what ? Both are true. The Left is not more able to communicate to their traditional voter base and this void was taken by the right.

  The media have their part of responsability, true, but in the end if the Left say nothing, what the media could tell about them ?

  on The far-right tells a story people buy — so why don’t progressives? in c/europe@feddit.org · 3d ago

• You are right, but just look at what happened here in Italy.
  To not let the Right win, the Left put together everyone else and once they won the elections they were stuck in their decision process because there are so many voices wanting something different that they cannot decide on nothing, so next election they lost bad.

  So yes, winning the election does not means you will govern but the alternative could be even worse: you are not able to do anything and when you inevitably fail you have served your opponent a perfect way to win.
  Here in Italy most of the people who voted for the Right did it because the only thing that come out the Left was something “the Right (meaning, Giorgia Meloni) should not be allowed to do this and that”, nothing about what the Left would have done.
  And the worst thing is that they are doing it again.

  on Germany's Merz under pressure as AfD eyes second state win in c/europe@feddit.org · 3d ago

• True, but this is not a thing you can try with a European country, you would need to kidnap too many people at basically the same time.

  on ‘Hostile act’: Trump threatens EU with tariffs over Canada associate-membership proposal in c/europe@feddit.org · 6d ago

• Declare a “special operation” against the major holders of their debt ?

  Remember than last time the US shutdown, military in Europe were told to go to eat to the soup kitchens…

  on ‘Hostile act’: Trump threatens EU with tariffs over Canada associate-membership proposal in c/europe@feddit.org · 17 Sep 2026

• I think the distinction of legal and illegal immigrants serves as a foot in the door for culture war distraction. First there is about needing to surveil some immigrant communities because of terrorist acts associated with foreigners, then it’s about not wanting to take in refugees because other nations in the EU are not putting in enough of an effort, then it becomes an issue of illegal immigration – which is synonymous with undocumented immigration.

  Ok, assuming you are right, what would be a solution to try to solve the problem with illegal immigration and all its consequences ?

  The step after that is introducing legislation to make working visas less of a certainty, usually that’s coupled to worse working conditions. Lastly deportations, nowadays called remigration, strip large sections of immigrants and those with an immigrant background of citizenship. This furthers an erosion of basic rights and puts those affected in a position where it’s do or die, which means proving your worth as an immigrant to state and industry.

  I think that here you are wrong. If you make working visas less viable the local worker gain something in my opinion. Companies still need workers and now they have a smaller pool to choose from.
  What make working condition worse for everyone (local population, legal and illegal immigrants) is that when you have a lot of illegal immigrants an unscrupulous employer can simply hire one of them at a fraction of what he should pay a legal worker.

  Furthermore, many currently legal and working immigrants have histories of undocumented migration, receiving government aid, and some even have engaged in illegal activity.

  That’s true. And the difference is that these people enter the country illegally (perhaps) and then begin the process of regularizing their status.

  Many voters of right wing parties don’t have a probblem with immigrants as long as they’re the right immigrants in their view.

  Which basically means that people has no problems with people who work honestly and contribute to the society.

  Immigrants are disadvantaged though and this makes some turn to crime. Crime that could be in large part prevented if these people had their needs better met. Trying to kick out criminal immigrants potentially makes the problem worse because it puts them in an even more precarious situation where they are even more incentivised to do crime. This creates pressure for the vast majority of immigrants who by the way are not criminals to conform even harder.

  The question is: since a country can absorbe a certain number of new immigrant every year, why we should allow in people we know we cannot handle in a decent way ?
  This way you are simply ruining the society (where people will start to look at extremist like a solution, think AfD) and the immigrant, both the already legal ones and the new legal ones, to not talk about the illegal ones.

  Criminals doing petty crime are not able to find regular employment when the state cracks down on them. They walk into the arms of human traffickers, which does not decrease the crime rate in any way. At best, crimes are made hidden or moved geographically.

  The point is to have less crime avoiding to have people on the country that need to live by petty crimes. And to do this you need to keep immigration in check.

  The important distinction here is trying and being. As someone who works, you likely have rather few resources to fund a business.

  I don’t need too much. The fund you need depends heavily on what you want to do. Currently I could easily open a consulting business that can sustain my family in the end, and I don’t need too much resources. I simply choose not because I like better to work 9-18 and then be free.

  You won’t be able to provide as much collateral on loans as people with capital, i.e. people whose property works for them. You are significantly disadvantaged.

  No, I am not significantly disadvantaged. Or better, it depends on what business you are thinking about. In certain cases you are right, in other you are wrong.

  Certainly. But you have duties and in the army example those duties entail grave acts such as taking another’s life and giving one’s own.

  If this is done to defend me or my familiy from someone who want to kill us, I honestly think is not wrong. It should not be necessary, I agree, but I would have not a problem to kill an enemy soldier who has as target to kill me and my family.

  Then again the army is a low hanging fruit since they’ll take all kinds of people.

  No, they will not take all kinds of people. To enter the army you need to meet a minimum level. In may case the problem is that I am too old now, but when I enlisted people were excluded because they were deemed unsuitable, for physical or psychological reasons.

  It’s good that you realise that there are certain prerequisites that the vast majority of people do not have when we turn our eyes away from the army example. This gate is education and education is highly determined by the financial situation of one’s parents.

  No, it not a problem of education, I met all the requisite regarding the level of education, I simply studied a branched that are not that requested (mechanical and then IT). But the minimum level required is basically the compulsory education, for which parents are helped if needed.

  I don’t think so. The state, police and monopolies on violences are a recent phenomenon.

  If you define “recent” as the last three thousand years, then I agree.
  In every society starting with the ancient Egypt there were some sort of justice system that was handled by the state, and sometime with way more violence than today.

  History is littered with systems where social conduct was shaped without purely punitive or violent measures. Who is to say that the nation state is the end-all-be-all?

  For example ?

  This does not really engage with the argument. States don’t have responsibilities like people.

  But States are made of people.
  Maybe the correct phrase would be “the people from UK created the problem…” but my point stand.

  They don’t join private clubs as it were. The rules you are seeing are a result of negotiations based on leverage and generally this is in the interest of the most powerful nations. First the EEC (EU-predecessor) is created out of a strength in numbers calculation. The United States and the Soviet Union are blocks that could overpower any one member of the EU, but as a regional alliance the scales can be balanced. The rules of the EU are based on that. It’s not a rules-first thing, if it was Hungary would have long been kicked out for repeatedly flunking the rules of the EU flagrantly.

  Even joining a private club is a negotiation, albeit a much simpler one: you agree to follow a set of rules when you join or you decide the rules if you are a founding member of a new club.

  But the point is: UK founded the club, taking some advantages for itself, agreed while being a member to a certain set of rules and then exited the club thinking that the rules would be still valid. That is the basic reason why Britons were deported from other States and people from other Stated left UK.

  Nuclear bombs were dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the Nuclear aspect was legal at the time. Now there are many states that have pledged to not use nuclear weapons.

  Nuclear is legal also now. What prevent the use of nuclear weapons is the Mutual Assured Destruction doctrine, nothing else. Nobody is so stupid (not even Iran or Putin) to belive that they can launch a nuclear attack and then survive the retaliation.

  on Sweden confirms 458 Britons deported or forcibly removed since Brexit in c/europe@feddit.org · 10 Sep 2026

• I remember that back then, a soldier was required to disobey an illegal order, it was one of the first thing that was said to a new soldier.

  In fact the defense still works.

  Only in a justice system that is a joke, like the US system.

  on Sweden confirms 458 Britons deported or forcibly removed since Brexit in c/europe@feddit.org · 10 Sep 2026

• No, like the OP The Guardian article, I was talking about larger cities which have decent public transport. They are also hotter than their surroundings which makes relief more important.

  Stopping ICE cars only in big cities is a palliative if it is the only thing you do.
  Take for example Milano: every day 600/700 thousand cars enter in the city simply because there are no (viable) alternatives. You have just shifted the problem in the immediate outskirt.

  Maybe a better solution would be to mandate working from home during heat waves, this way you have way less people around, like with COVID, and way less people needing to use a car to enter the city. In the end big cities have not factories anymore, basically everyone can work from home. As a bonus public transportation would work better for the ones who need to go to the city

  on We’re the mayors of Paris, Milan and Phoenix. The heat crisis has us all facing the same question | Emmanuel Grégoire, Giuseppe Sala and Kate Gallego in c/europe@feddit.org · 10 Sep 2026

• Works already fine for cities like Paris, Berlin, Copenhagen and so on. Driving a ptivate car for transportation is for max comfort, not for need.

  If you think that using less than 2 hours to go to work using a car instead of public transportation (and the same to return home if you are lucky) is just only for max comfort feel free to do it, no problem, but you are joking yourself.
  Yep, there are solutions to this but since people need to work also during heat waves, banning ICE car without the corresponding increase of the public transportation is a stupid idea. And the current state of most of the public transportation is that they would not be able to sustain weeks with a total ban of ICE cars, simpy there are not enough vehicles and drivers. And you cannot expand the fleet on a whim.

  But now think how your idea can work in places (small cities, villages and so on) where a public transportation system is not feasible because it is not justified in cost and usage. How people move ? In small cities you have not all the services you may need like in a big cities, and it is logical, but neverless these services are still needed.

  And also, heat waves are catastrophic emergencies which kill thousands of people. Wishes for mere comfort cannot have priority then.

  True, but you were confusing a necessity for mere comfort in places that are not yet, and probably never will, ready to what you suggest.

  Reasonable, few exceptions for really important things - I have no problem with that. But getting some bread rolls from a shop 1 kilometer away? Leave your Benz. Take the bike.

  I can, and I do, if I have the shop nearby. But I am honest enough to understand that not everything can be done this way and that not everyone can do this way.

  Heat waves are a problem, no doubt, but you don’t solve it only thinking to big cities, like for pollution.

  on We’re the mayors of Paris, Milan and Phoenix. The heat crisis has us all facing the same question | Emmanuel Grégoire, Giuseppe Sala and Kate Gallego in c/europe@feddit.org · 9 Sep 2026

• We also need policies that ban all ICE cars - including Diesel cars - except emergency vehicles during and just before heat waves.

  That would imply that you can satisfy the need of people to move (work, groceries, life in general) with the public transportation system, which I highly doubt.

  on We’re the mayors of Paris, Milan and Phoenix. The heat crisis has us all facing the same question | Emmanuel Grégoire, Giuseppe Sala and Kate Gallego in c/europe@feddit.org · 9 Sep 2026

• The thing is, immigrants are the perfect victims. They often don’t have…

  The problem is that people are not able anymore to discern things. What you say it could be true but the problem is that it applied mostly to illegal immigrants.
  True, some people are assholes also to legal immigrants (stupid people alway exists).
  Most people have not problems with the immigrants that work and partecipate in the society but with the immigrants that live by petty crimes.

  Many nationalists force use immigrants because left wings (and other btw) parties make it too easy to use them as bogeyman: it is not too hard to point your finger at them saying “they are all criminals” when looking at situations in the cities (I always use the Milan Central railway station as example).
  As I said elsewhere, years of immigrations left unchecked has caused the society to switch from the “they need help” mentality to the “they are all criminals, we don’t need them” mentality, offering an easy target to nationalist forces even because everyone else refused to look at the problem.

  Would you commit a murder if you would be **sure ** to be caught, put in prison cell 2x2 meters and never ever exit, not even for 1 hour a day, until you die ?

  I would not commit murder because I think doing it is enough of a punishment. My not-terrible upbringing has led me to dislike such acts. I have nothing to gain from just murdering people and that has rather little to do with punitive consequences

  Or, let’s take a lighter crime: would you park your car in a no parking zone if you would be sure to be fined every time you do it ?

  I don’t drive a car. I think it’s an outdated technology.

  I think you understand perfectly the spirit of the questions, answering this way is simply childish.

  The basic question is: would you think that people would do something illegal if they would be sure to be caught and punished proportionally to the crime ?

  The phrasing here is a little unclear to me. I presume you mean that you want to preserve the potentiality of becoming a state servant or business owner. Statistically speaking (and logically speaking) workers don’t just move up the ladder. If everyone could the system as it is would implode and we know that it’s self-correcting against collapsing in on itself. As a worker it’s very difficult to start a business because you need money and time to plan. Oftentimes you fail because the real world is noisy and certainties are few.

  No, I mean that I was s state servant (I served in the militay like every other man did up until 20 years ago) and I was a business owner.
  But your point is wrong: everyone can try and that does not mean that everyone will succeded. There is nothing that can stop me to try to become again a business owner, only my choice to not be one.
  And likewyse there is nothing that stops me to try to become a state servant again if not objective things: I am too old to join again the army or I have not the correct studies for a certain work in the state apparatus for example.

  And society do not implode because someone move up the ladder.

  But the punishment here does not come out of thin air. There is a monopoly on violence that is in the hands of the state.

  The alternative is a never ending chain of personal vendettas.

  It is a problem that the UK and the EU created. It is a problem of the contradiction between the local level and the international level. This problem is quite relevant for the EU, because it signals greater antagonisms affecting the entirety of Europe. /

  The UK created the problem when decided to leave the EU. Think about EU like a private club: you could enter if you are a member. You leave the club, you can no longer enter. Who caused the problem ? The club which follow its rules of you that decide to leave the club thinking that you could still enter whenever you wanted ?

  Assuming rules are static and respected: Wars cause innovation because either side seeks to win. Technical novelties are extremely important. You may not see mustard gas be used or soldiers being blinded by lasers, but you might have to deal with new technology for which no specific laws exist. There are these magical battle technologies called autonomous drones and autonomous turrets.

  That does not means that everything is allowed. The use of every weapon, old or new, ultimately has a resposinble: who gave the order to deploy it.

  I can also break the rules in favour of my superiors and hope I receive their good will. I can lie and say I was following rules. What’s important here is the authority judging me in the end turning a blind eye and that has happened time and time again throughout history. Operation Paperclip is a fairly decent example of this.

  Obviously, you can lie or you can break the rules as long as you and your superior are willing to pay the price. And as you pointed out, it happened time and again.

  It makes sense that rule breakers would use the following-orders defence since the rules are made by those declaring the orders.

  Only if you are on the winning side. And also in this case I am not sure that if you follow an illegal order the defence works.

  on Sweden confirms 458 Britons deported or forcibly removed since Brexit in c/europe@feddit.org · 9 Sep 2026

• Is this anything a VLAN and Pihole can’t fix?

  You can simply put it on a guest WiFi network that cannot see any other networks and just put a password on your main network, it is not that difficult.

  on Your LG TV Might Be Spying on Your Entire Network While You Think It's Turned Off in c/technology@lemmy.world · 8 Sep 2026

• Not every discussion about rules ends with citing immigrants. Immigrants are relevant here – see the article – and the rules that exist favour either rich immigrants or people with citizenship.

  In this situation the immigrants (the Britons) were able to stay in Sweden exactly because UK was in the EU and then there were rules about this. Also a lot of people was forced to left UK for the same reason.

  And migrants do make the world go round, look at doctors, people working in industry and so on.

  I would like to discuss about this, if what you say would be true we would not have rise from all the parties that say to send them back. Now we can discuss about legal Vs illegal immigrants but I don’t think we could agree.

  All of that is after the fact. After murders have happened. Murderers know they will be punished harshly and do it anyway. The interesting question is how to prevent murders without strictly relying on harsh punishments since that is something murders factor in…

  Would you commit a murder if you would be **sure ** to be caught, put in prison cell 2x2 meters and never ever exit, not even for 1 hour a day, until you die ?
  Or, let’s take a lighter crime: would you park your car in a no parking zone if you would be sure to be fined every time you do it ?

  The problem is not how harsh is the punishment but how sure you are to be punished: you can have a death sentence for murder but if your probability to be caught is 1% it is not a deterrent.

  So you do recognise rules are forced upon subjects by an authority, in this case the state.

  Yes, and it is necessary.

  I assume you are not a state servant or business owner, do you also recognise that the state wants to squeeze you of every ounce of labour so that it can do its deed to perpetuate its system of class rule? It’s hens OKing the fox guarding the hen house.

  No. Simply because even if I am currently not a state servant or business owner (but I was both of them) there is nothing that stop me from being one once I had the prerequisites (for being a state servant) or I want to start a business.

  Society is not merely a set of rules. Society is made up of relations between people and physical infrastructure such as housing and workplaces. What you think of as rules are at best for edge cases. Most people don’t go about their day thinking about rules, those who do are a small minority which most would generally label bean counters. You have a highly idealistic conception of why things work.

  Maybe but I am pretty sure that if there was not a set of rules then society as we intend it would fall in a very short time frame.

  Relationships between people work once the people know that if the do something wrong there is some sort of punishment, else it would become something like “the strongest rules” very fast.

  Actually, no those who voted did not understand the consequences.

  It is not an EU problem, it is their problem. Why we should try to solve a problem they created for themself.
  Beside the fact that in my opinion UK voter understand very well what the possible consequences would be, they simply choose to belive that they were in a position to impose their will.

  To understand the consequences you would need to spend time that most people don’t have because they work. Nationalistic thinktanks that position themselves against German (and French) competition pour a bunch of money into campaigns that say the UK will be paradise after Brexit and the people lap it up. Not that this is the thing that brought us Brexit, there was a nationalistic sentiment that existed before Brexit was even a concept. This has a logic, and it has very little to do with rigorously rational voting.

  True. But what you are saying is that UK was so full of itself that they think that EU would beg to them to make treaties at their (UK) conditions.
  Unfortunately for them it was (and is) not true.

  But yeah, what you are saying, about needing to follow rules and whatnot, is exactly the same thing someone killings others for the military would say. “I need to follow the rules because if I don’t something bad happens or something”

  No. Killing in a war has rules too. And a soldier can refuse to follow and order.
  True, you follow orders but if the order is unlawfull you must refuse to follow it, since the “I was following the orders” defence does not work.

  on Sweden confirms 458 Britons deported or forcibly removed since Brexit in c/europe@feddit.org · 8 Sep 2026

• Oh yes, everything that is not left is obviously fascist in these times…

  on Italy weighs the results as Giorgia Meloni's government sets a longevity record in c/europe@feddit.org · 8 Sep 2026

• But in the world we live in, this is sadly not the case and we must stick to the rules that the people have agreed to.
  

  Who says we must?

  To be polite to others?

  F the rules, it’s not like it’s in the interest of those who actually make the world go round. Immigrants for example.

  Why every discussion about rules need to end with citing immigrants ?

  The rules in this case are, the people of Britain have voted to leave the EU and all its benefits, so these new rules must be followed.
  

  There was a poll about the death penalty some time ago in an EU country. The majority of those polled were in favour of the death penalty. Does the death penalty prevent murders?

  Obviously not, death penalty alone would not work if you are pretty sure to not be caught.
  What you really need is to be sure that if you break the law there will be a penalty, and a hard one if you commit a murder.

  No it doesn’t. It’s just another terrorist tool that the populace OKs to have used upon itself in certain cases.

  Like every penalty if you think about it.

  Your logic is exactly the same of following orders and denouncing undesirables.

  No. Following the rules is the base for a society to be functional.
  Beside, when UK decide to leave the EU, they know very well what the consequences would be, they simply choose to ignore them, or they were convinced that the UK could have imposed their conditions on EU.

  on Sweden confirms 458 Britons deported or forcibly removed since Brexit in c/europe@feddit.org · 8 Sep 2026

• A shuter sound does nothing now that both cameras and phones with a decent zoom

  on A German city may soon ban smart glasses on public transport, pools in c/technology@lemmy.world · 8 Sep 2026

• Why would you want to put the onus of proving something illegal was done on the victims?

  Because someone is innocent until proven guilty maybe ?

  Banning pervert glasses solves the problem at the root. Plus it’s orders of magnitude more easy to prove someone wore them than proving something illegal was done with them.

  Maybe, but this way you ban them also in situation where they could be usefull.
  In a way you are punishing a technology instead of the people making bad use of it.

  on A German city may soon ban smart glasses on public transport, pools in c/technology@lemmy.world · 8 Sep 2026

• A lot of the intelligent people know full well the reason why, but that doesn’t matter as long as the old and senile generation keeps voting for the greedy bastards that created most of our problems in the first place.

  And yet all these intelligent people are not able to build a credible alternative to the current parties, left or right that they are, which is what paved the way to AfD.

  on How AfD is winning in the polls and could even govern ALONE in Saxony Anhalt and its plans for the schools curriculum in c/europe@feddit.org · 4 Sep 2026

• I would personally focus on the current policies of the left wing, with poverty as a consequence.

  If we look at the situation without prejudices we would clearly see that the far right begin to rise in Europe (with various degree) when the left started to ignore the common people’s problems, if not making them worse.

  It is not logical to think that people were right extremist but somehow never voted for a far right party (or a far right party was never founded to get these votes). True, in 10/15 years there is a change in the demogaphy but it is not a long enough time frame to have a radical change.

  What happened is that people voted as usual, then the ruling parties (most from the left) decided to adopt policies that make life worst for almost everyone and when they ignored the people complain about them if not calling them stupid and ignorant, the same people then started to vote for someone who at least listen to them with the hope that the problem would be solved, paving the way to AfD rise in Germany and people like Vannacci in Italy

  on How AfD is winning in the polls and could even govern ALONE in Saxony Anhalt and its plans for the schools curriculum in c/europe@feddit.org · 4 Sep 2026

• And yet no one of the intelligent people seems to think why AfD rises so much.

  on How AfD is winning in the polls and could even govern ALONE in Saxony Anhalt and its plans for the schools curriculum in c/europe@feddit.org · 3 Sep 2026

• When companies are not able to produce enough to satisfy demand and are actively stopping selling to certain sectors and harming them, they should lose their patents.

  Except they stop selling to certain sectors because these sectors pay less. I am pretty sure that if a laptop maker ask to buy the RAM at a 50% higher price than AI companies, the RAM producer will happily sell to them.

  RAM companies are actively harming all of us by selling their products to the AI companies and leaving us all without RAM, so we should encourage alternatives.

  And how do you plan to keep these alternatives from selling to the higher bidder, which will probably be a AI company ?

  on Chinese memory firm CXMT relied on leaked Samsung technology to skip years of R&D, court testimony claims in c/technology@lemmy.world · 24 Aug 2026