The reason tutorials are always based on terminal commands is because it’s much harder to describe directions for a GUI, and it’s also a lot more prone to change. When the command is just a single line, not images or dependencies, that’s obviously better.
I need to point out that in this case most probably will be installed snap/flatpack package (unless you mean some UI for native package manager), which is a sandboxed package and can/will have issues with things like file access.
Well, it’s not like problems are guaranteed, most things just work, except maybe Steam.
I heard there was big investment from Germany into flatpack, I hope it become more polished, it would be great. I do like fully native apps, but I like stability and ease of install better.
TBF, on Debian apt install firefox installs firefox-esr, and on Ubuntu it’s a placeholder that installs the snap package. Both work and are clearly better than downloading from random websites, but they do come with surprises for unsuspecting users.
Search " software "click download, accept security warning, navigate to wherever your default download location is, double click installer, click your way through the installer (make sure do deselect whatever crapware it tries to package along with).
From there you click Firefox, then you click the download link it gives you on the next page, that downloads a file (still not installed) or takes you to an app store if you’re on a phone, you run that file or click install on the app store to actually install the application.
Great, you’re halfway there with that sarcasm. Now apply that to the comment chain you posted in and… hell why you’re here the post itself and you’ll get it now.
People still try to claim Linux is complicated and has a lot of unnecessary steps to install stuff and it just isn’t true for vast majority of people installing the vast majority of stuff.
Uh, maybe you’re not picking up the context clues here. I’m actively making fun of windows users. Blatantly even. The sarcasm is pretty one-sided toward the windows community. But thank you for trying to convert me to Linux. It’s been a fun 20 years and hopefully 20 more.
And rm won’t work either, since you (probably) don’t have files named - and rf, and then it will complain that / is a directory. And even if we correct that, you forgot to pass –no-preserve-root.
Not wrong about OP, but also both major desktop environments on linux ship with “app stores” that are friendly to anyone familiar with a phone. So it’s still easier installing software on linux than searching for and downloading .msi and .exe files on the internet (and hoping the version of MSI afterburner you found is the real one).
I use Octopi generally, though the add/remove software app is prettier. If I have to install software via the command line I always have to double check the syntax. The command like version existing is extremely useful as a fallback though, and most (all?) gui package managers act as wrappers around the command line. So don’t dunk on the command line
Thinking you have to use the terminal for installing programs can only mean you don’t know anything about modern user friendly Linux distros. You manage to install stuff on an iOS or Android phone as well, without downloading random files from random sites and then launching random installers, do you? You can do it thesame way on Linux.
The thing is, if you want to, you can also use the terminal. Many prefer it because you can be faster and the command is not rocket science. Which is fine too. Whatever you prefer.
Literally easier than Windows.
People are falling for this and downloading software from unofficial websites.
Linux is super easy.
click the store basket icon.
type the name of the program.
press install.
The reason tutorials are always based on terminal commands is because it’s much harder to describe directions for a GUI, and it’s also a lot more prone to change. When the command is just a single line, not images or dependencies, that’s obviously better.
i know. outlines how easy it is tho.
I need to point out that in this case most probably will be installed snap/flatpack package (unless you mean some UI for native package manager), which is a sandboxed package and can/will have issues with things like file access.
I use discover on opensuse tumbleweed. Simple, easy, and I can choose the source from flathub and tumbleweed when both are available.
I did have an issue once but it turned out that it was network related and not my config.
Well, it’s not like problems are guaranteed, most things just work, except maybe Steam.
I heard there was big investment from Germany into flatpack, I hope it become more polished, it would be great. I do like fully native apps, but I like stability and ease of install better.
steam just works for me. flatpak has been working better and better over time for me.
it’s getting polished as we speak, slowly but surely.
TBF, on Debian
apt install firefoxinstalls firefox-esr, and on Ubuntu it’s a placeholder that installs the snap package. Both work and are clearly better than downloading from random websites, but they do come with surprises for unsuspecting users.Why is Ubuntu even still relevant?
Inertia?
That’s because debian stable need ESR packages to make any sense, on debian unstable (debian Sid) you get the normal package
Ok but also
winget install mozilla.firefoxIt’s not binary
It actually is a binary. Though you can probably find some version to compile in the AUR
slow clap
winget was literally robbed from appget.
Or even: yay firefox
or even: yay -S librewolf-bin
No need. Librewolf got added to extra repo. yay librewolf or pacman -S librewolf will do just fine.
👍
yay firefoxdoesyay -Ss firefox.Which, in turn, does
me: yay! 🥳It should take a moment or two to install. /s
CachyOS # pacman -S firefox-wayland-cachy-hg
edit: BTW
Thinking a command line is easier than double clicking an installer shows how far you linux users are devoid from the common user.
Vs
Search "
software"click download, accept security warning, navigate to wherever your default download location is, double click installer, click your way through the installer (make sure do deselect whatever crapware it tries to package along with).Yup, the Windows way is totally so much easier.
mozilla.org
yay -S firefox
Which is harder to type?
So going to mozilla.org then immediately installs firefox?
Yep, you should try it
It doesn’t and you know that.
From there you click Firefox, then you click the download link it gives you on the next page, that downloads a file (still not installed) or takes you to an app store if you’re on a phone, you run that file or click install on the app store to actually install the application.
Wow! That sounds complicated and seems like a lot of unnecessary steps
Great, you’re halfway there with that sarcasm. Now apply that to the comment chain you posted in and… hell why you’re here the post itself and you’ll get it now.
People still try to claim Linux is complicated and has a lot of unnecessary steps to install stuff and it just isn’t true for vast majority of people installing the vast majority of stuff.
Uh, maybe you’re not picking up the context clues here. I’m actively making fun of windows users. Blatantly even. The sarcasm is pretty one-sided toward the windows community. But thank you for trying to convert me to Linux. It’s been a fun 20 years and hopefully 20 more.
To be fair, I’m guessing that most people will just type “Firefox” into Google and click the first link
“There’s no need to download a different browser”
mmh mozilla.org IMO
what do you do with the extra 2 seconds?
My wife.
2 whole seconds? You animal.
Sudo rm - rf /
🤷♂️
bash: Sudo: command not foundAnd
rmwon’t work either, since you (probably) don’t have files named-andrf, and then it will complain that/is a directory. And even if we correct that, you forgot to pass–no-preserve-root.Maybe they are being nice to people trying to test a random command from the internet.
Not wrong about OP, but also both major desktop environments on linux ship with “app stores” that are friendly to anyone familiar with a phone. So it’s still easier installing software on linux than searching for and downloading .msi and .exe files on the internet (and hoping the version of MSI afterburner you found is the real one).
Common users type into chatbots. They can 100% type the install commands. But also using the Bazaar or software center is super easy.
Who’s typing those long ass command chains? Let’s be honest, it’s all copy pasta from those chatbots.
that’s not what devoid means.
I use Octopi generally, though the add/remove software app is prettier. If I have to install software via the command line I always have to double check the syntax. The command like version existing is extremely useful as a fallback though, and most (all?) gui package managers act as wrappers around the command line. So don’t dunk on the command line
I find installing or running software from the cli is excellent for getting hints and clues to errors that the gui won’t show you.
I disagree.
But still, you need to get the installer somehow.
Thinking you have to use the terminal for installing programs can only mean you don’t know anything about modern user friendly Linux distros. You manage to install stuff on an iOS or Android phone as well, without downloading random files from random sites and then launching random installers, do you? You can do it thesame way on Linux.
The thing is, if you want to, you can also use the terminal. Many prefer it because you can be faster and the command is not rocket science. Which is fine too. Whatever you prefer.