Gosh, his character as ‘himself’ on Arrested Development was so damn good. It gets me every time. I think I’m way past due for another rewatch; thanks for reminding me! This was also a wonderful usage of the reference and gif! :)
Linux requires at least 32 bit machine words, and it always has. Linux was originally written for Intel 80386.
Linux requires a hardware MMU to support virtual memory. There are patches that can make a no-MMU kernel, but it drastically changes the experience to do so.
I think you could cook something like a 4-bit turing complete computer with around 100 transistors or so. And i guess turing completeness basically means “it will run with enough elbow grease” in this case
Not quite just a transistor but maybe something like this (an SOC with 32MB ram which costs about $5 in bulk) though it does require quite a bit of additional electronics to work.
Also somebody also made an embedded Linux for the ESP32-S3 (which is even cheaper and doesn’t require anywhere as much auxiliary electronics).
PS: Yeah, I got the joke. Just pointing out that the reality itself is quite impressive.
funny thing - the SDRAM used provides 300kb/sec, while the SDcard used as storage provides 200kb/sec. Performancewise they could just skip most of the ram outside of booting and use the SDcard without losing much performance, especially since the SDRAM needs to be refreshed every 62ms for a duration of 3ms regardless of use.
Edit: I LOVE this part:
It takes about 2 hours to boot to bash prompt ("init=/bin/bash” kernel command line). Then 4 more hours to boot up the entire Ubuntu ("exec init” and then login). Starting X takes a lot longer. The effective emulated CPU speed is about 6.5KHz, which is on par with what you’d expect emulating a 32-bit CPU & MMU on a measly 8-bit micro. Curiously enough, once booted, the system is somewhat usable. You can type a command and get a reply within a minute. That is to say that you can, in fact, use it. I used it to day to format an SD card, for example. This is definitely not the fastest, but I think it may be the cheapest, slowest, simplest to hand assemble, lowest part count, and lowest-end Linux PC. The board is hand-soldered using wires, there is not even a requirement for a printed circuit board.
I’m sure someone could figure out how to boot Linux on a vacuum tube computer. The problem is there just aren’t that many around that are still operational.
Shows image of a common NPN bipolar low power transistor
You’re telling me that a Japanese (Nippon) person with wild mood swings and low self esteem who identifies as a trans sister, also runs Linux? How is this news.
It’s funny but it’s not true
Well, not with 1. But collect a few million transistors,
Gosh, his character as ‘himself’ on Arrested Development was so damn good. It gets me every time. I think I’m way past due for another rewatch; thanks for reminding me! This was also a wonderful usage of the reference and gif! :)
Plot twist: it’s actually a whole SoC packaged to look like a single transistor, with the pins being for +V, ground, and a 1-Wire data bus.
I don’t know that such a thing exists, but these days I bet it could.
You’re right. A lightbulb plugged into a potato is the real minimum system requirement.
But could it run doom?!
Not with that attitude!
Linux requires at least 32 bit machine words, and it always has. Linux was originally written for Intel 80386.
Linux requires a hardware MMU to support virtual memory. There are patches that can make a no-MMU kernel, but it drastically changes the experience to do so.
Well it is kinda cheating but Linux does “run” on a intel 4004 running a MIPS emulator
I think you could cook something like a 4-bit turing complete computer with around 100 transistors or so. And i guess turing completeness basically means “it will run with enough elbow grease” in this case
(if we exclude memory from the transistor count…)
There’s an ESP32 with MMU running Linux now
Just set the gate to high
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Smh
Not quite just a transistor but maybe something like this (an SOC with 32MB ram which costs about $5 in bulk) though it does require quite a bit of additional electronics to work.
Also somebody also made an embedded Linux for the ESP32-S3 (which is even cheaper and doesn’t require anywhere as much auxiliary electronics).
PS: Yeah, I got the joke. Just pointing out that the reality itself is quite impressive.
Some crazy fucker got the OG Tomb Raider to run on an ESP chip.
Although the ESP is significantly more powerful than the original console.
dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=07.+Linux+on+8bit
This guy ran linux on 8-bit microcontroller by emulating a hogher end processor on an 8 bit computer. He also emulated the ram on an SD card.
Slow as heck, but can be done.
funny thing - the SDRAM used provides 300kb/sec, while the SDcard used as storage provides 200kb/sec. Performancewise they could just skip most of the ram outside of booting and use the SDcard without losing much performance, especially since the SDRAM needs to be refreshed every 62ms for a duration of 3ms regardless of use.
Edit: I LOVE this part:
6 hours to get into X is ridiculous
Ok, but with emulation and enough time, you can run any software on as much as a light switch.
88 pins, that’s way too many!
Is there a 32 pin DIP-32 chip that can run Linux?
There are some not practical, but workable as proof of concept examples that go even lower:
https://hackaday.com/2012/03/28/building-the-worst-linux-pc-ever/
I will probably be hated for this.
- www.netbsd.org/about/portability.html
This made me look up if you could somehow run it on vacuum tubes, sadly not
But linux-magazine.com/…/Hacker-Successfully-Runs-Lin…
9 day boot time on a 4004!
I’m sure someone could figure out how to boot Linux on a vacuum tube computer. The problem is there just aren’t that many around that are still operational.
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You’re telling me that a Japanese (Nippon) person with wild mood swings and low self esteem who identifies as a trans sister, also runs Linux? How is this news.
I don’t mean to brag, but I have two of those.
You may not like it, but if your distro can’t run on this, it’s bloated.
This meme made me wonder what’s the minimum number of transistors needed to run linux
Install directly into the base of the brainstem
Hey you
Does not compute. A Turing machine (with limited tape so it can be built for real) does though, whether transistorized or not.
You can make it go faster by blowing on it.
Linux needs a proper MMU
Actually, no.
Don’t get it twisted
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