how do you manage your server?
I usually connect with my server via ssh in a terminal and run basic commands. What’s a better, more efficient and modern way of doing that? Especially considering ai and documentation along the way? I wonder if there’s a better approach than “connect from remote and act local”. Is there a method to “code local and push to remote”?
I use a fedora server with podman, caddyfile and vi.
I wait for something to break. Then I yell “God fucking dammit, I don’t have time for this right now!” and spend an hour triaging things before I just try docker down, pull, up and everything works.
same. or i just df and see / 100%
Early on I wrote a script for my user account to run df and save the output to a file, then a second script to read that file and if the drive was full send me an email.
First, it failed because it couldn’t send the email because the email service failed under full disk conditions.
Second, it failed because it couldn’t write the file to disk because the disk was full.
Third, it failed because outbound SMTP was blocked by my ISP.
I learned a lot about how well you can fail if you really put your mind to it. Now I have Home Assistant grabbing the disk stats for my machines and flagging anything over 90%.
Poorly.
Hear hear
Hell yeah
I just use ssh and manually type commands. Keep doing it and you will get good and it will become second nature.
No need to burn tokens on basic tasks.
Master your tools. Learn awk, sed, just, etc.
Some shell customisation can help. For example I’m fond of zsh-auto-suggestions and skim. Makes me quicker.
Ansible is one way to “code local, push to remote(s)”. Can define so-called playbooks, which is basically just a script, to do reoccuring tasks like e.g. updates.
Ansible is great, I just wish it would automatically cleanup stuff on the server when I remove parts of the config. I know it’s not the goal, but I dream about a tool that works this way. I get many leftover stuff over years
That sounds like NixOS to me.
I have yet to try it but apparently
I use ssh with tmux
This is the way
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“code local and push remote” is only more efficient if you have a faulty connection with ssh or want to use a GUI editor that doesn’t support remote connections. What you’re doing is good. You can scoure for more “modern” ways that might have more glimmer and sparkly lights, but it won’t improve efficiency.
Declarative configuration (like docker compose) is basically “code local, push remote”, and it has a lot of benefits, including improving efficiency because you have a clearer idea of exactly what is set up on the server, to make it easier to debug or make changes.
Contrast this with just sshing in and running a bunch of commands to install something. Then coming back months later and wondering “what files did I touch? what packagea did I install? Hmm dpkg log says I added X but then later I removed it, so was it important?” Etc.
It’s good to get comfortable in the command line, including over ssh.
If I am going to ask AI or Google about something, I just do that to help me find the answer and then apply the answer myself. That way I learn, and can double check the AI isn’t hallucinating, at least on in obvious ways.
As for documentation, I keep a notes folder with detailed notes on manual configuration I’ve done, how and why, and the things I’ve learned along the way. I’ve found it’s both useful to help remember the things I’ve learned, and it is useful to go back to refer to.
I write my NixOS configs in my PC, commit to the repo, then push it to the server. Then SSH in, and apply it. Or more likely, MOSH in.
I’ve been using a program someone on Lemmy has been writing: SSHPilot. It helps keep my server list organized and can easily ssh to the machines or open up a file browser for easy drag and drop of files if I have some quick files to move around. It copies ssh keys easily as well.
nixos, mostly. It has a very steep learning curve but if it breaks I’m just “whatever, rollback now, fix properly later”.
I created git repos on my main workstation for each homelab server/service I maintain that keeps:
I just point a local LLM (offline model that runs on my workststion) into those repos and ask it to perform certain things on those servers. It can do things like update packages, install packages, make config changes, set/check permissions, read logs (and fix errors in real time), and check the health of the overall system.
I have it run pre backups before making changes, then post backups once its done.
Once changes are in place and everything is running okay, I ask it to update documentation in the repo and tag the release.
I use
opencodethat connects to allama.cppservice.opencodelets me gate the AI so that any elevated commands that it needs to run (e.g. sudo or ssh), I have to approve it. It cant just go around making changes without permission.What models are you using? What hardware are you running them on? I’m curious if I can replicate your success
Hardware I’m running:
I’m mainly using these MoE models:
Qwen-3.6-35B-A3B
Gemma4-26B-A4B
A mix of prayer and bash scripts.
Remove bash scripts and add poorly configured logging and that’s me!
At least you have logging!
Nothing wrong with good old ssh. My VMs are different enough that building and maintaining ansible playbooks or something similar would be a bigger task than actually doing it in the traditional way. Maybe I could benefit by building simple playbooks to populate user accounts, ssh keys, smtp relay settings and other common things, but I don’t really set up new servers that often that it would justify spending time to set up tools for that.
I’ll take the maverick and share my niche position. I did most if not all my proxmox setup and configuration via complete reliance on LLMs. Now, before anyone says “why would you do that”, and I’ll be straight up. I was high for all of it, and not a small blaze I’m talking regularly stoned for months. And I’ll say it “got me by” for the frame work. It worked? Sorta. Music, Plex, immich, docker, arr stack, podman. Now, I can’t say I fully understand it still and I’ve done a lot of changes since that point last year and I figured it out by asking the model to backtrack what we did and I wont lie it helped me better learn how to question the models for my job, and It did decent documnetation over my server. But again, I was literally high doing it
My target is terraform to provide VMs on my miniPC and ansible to configure them. For my nas, probably a basic distro then some ansible stuff to setup stomate.
I spent a while getting Ansible to be able to setup and maintain my server(s). And ended up not using it as much as I should, mostly because the computer I used to run Ansible from became a “Steam Machine” so I’m rarely sitting on it with a keyboard now and I don’t want to have personal info and keys on my work computer.
But it was a good learning, and useful while I used it. Now I just use ssh and compose files directly.
I use Gitlab for all configurations ans then I have a Gitlab runner in my K3S cluster so I can deploy locally for free
self hosted gitlab. each server has a repo with all the docker configs and application configs. also have any scripts for the server itself on there as well, things like required libs, network configs, etc.
I also have a repo dedicated for let’s encrypt SSL that retrieves new certs every month. then on each server is an install script scheduled that pulls the certs down, installs them, and restarts any services automatically.
should anything go wrong, I have a siem monitor that will alert me that a service failed to start etc.
currently running four servers like this with varying degrees of complexity.
Ansible and terraform can bath do with you want though for a single server I’d consider them both to be a somewhat overkill. But then again homelabbing often is about overkill.
There are probably multiple flashy clients and gui’s for it, but if you’re already used to the terminal, I’d recommend
rsync. This might be the wrong syntax but something likersync -av ~/local/project servername:/var/www/html/would take your local files and update the web directory of your server with only the files that are more recent. Rsync will even read your ssh config file so if you’re got an entry for your server you can just use the host name.I ran a little blog for a while using a static site generator so I setup the git server on my web server and wrote a git hook where every time I pushed to the repo the server would pull it’s cloned copy of the repo into the html directory. Took me a few hours to setup but it made updating the blog as simple as pushing to the repo.
Depends what you’re trying to do, really
If you’re talking about going in and restarting containers and checking logs, there are tools like Portainer that give a nice UI you can quickly use from your phone
If you’re talking about repetitive tasks, sometimes there’s a tool to automate it already (e.g. updates via watchtower, unattended-upgrades), and if not, you can write a script and possibly run it via a cronjob if that makes sense
If you’re talking about doing new stuff, you either stick with the SSH & shell commands, or you look into IaC tools like ansible as another reply mentioned. Another option is something like Nix where the setup is defined in config, so you make your changes there
Ansible to deploy services in docker compose stacks and backups with resticprofile.
set the server as git remote and push there directly. set hooks to deploy. I do that for a static site. Is my little iac solution. Search for alternatives to “infrastructure as code”. It can go from simple dockerfile to swarms or kubernetes…
I deploy with ansible keys and install ssh with a keys-only config and only ansible access.
Then I run some standard installs and configs with ansible and all future updates to apt, apk and docker are done with one ansible playbook.
I don’t include the ansible host itself in the automation, nor my workstation, just to prevent everything from being broken at once if something goes wrong.
with dokplpy as a server docker managementweb gui.
for the code push workflow:
If you’re project has an unusual way to build, you could also do a git action that pushes a docker image out somewhere, depending on yoyr git provider.
There are probably infinitely many ways to autodeploy something.
If you need a step bt step breakdown, I can give you a guide based on my personal website, but that might not apply to your project.
I connect to my server using ssh and use tmux as a persistent session. Configuration wise, I use NixOS and edit the config files directly on the server via emacs.
SSH but i mostly do everything over dockhand which is a webuj for docker
It depends on what I’m doing I suppose. I run my main VM on Proxmox, so I mainly use its web interface for any VM work. For all the containers within, I’ve been really loving Dockhand lately, it’s just as easy to use as Portainer, it even checks for updates for me AND gives me a link for the release notes so I can decide whether to upgrade or not.
Most other things like file transfers or editing my Caddyfile I do through SSH. Can’t beat simplicity sometimes!
To manage containers I use Arcane, which I can access from anywhere. Let’s me create, update, delete, basically anything Podman can do.
For other stuff I still just SSH. I have up set up that I can do it remotely (with an extra security step), but I don’t need to do it very often.
Worth noting that some security stuff is automated, eg non-breaking updates on the OS and log monitoring.
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Around 50-50 between SSH and Portainer (although I’ve been meaning to migrate from Portainer to Arcane so I can have my compose files in git)
Proxmox web UI to manage my six containers. Sometimes I use sftp (ssh) to modify files in a desktop editor instead of nano over a web interface. Recently I broke things and had to go down to the basement with a keyboard and monitor to rollback my Omada container. I kinda want to make that part easier but it’s so infrequent it’s probably not worth it.
I have a kubernetes cluster inside of Proxmox vm’s, generally I write a deployment, commit it to a git repo and then use argocd to deploy it in the cluster.
This is not something I would advise to anyone but the clinically insane, but for me there is a certain zen in having everything in git like that. It’s for me the only way I can manage the 60ish applications I run without it having a permanent spot in my brain.
Which one? Lol.
TrueNAS is mostly via the webgui but I use SSH when needed.
I have two Ubuntu 26.04LTS VM’s running on TrueNAS. One is going to be my web host the other is for FrigateNVR and local AI processing. They are both managed via SSH. The web host has a FIDO2 ssh key for access, the other is a standard key and is not web accessible. Both can be accessed via remote desktop when at home.
Docker containers are managed via DockHand. I have about 50 containers running across the above hosts right now.
HomeAssistant is managed via the webgui and SSH when needed. It runs on its own hardware (Odroid N2+)
My traveling local host/ap/dhcp server is primarily managed over USB via SSH. Files are managed via SFTP.
I have a git repo with all my docker files, config, notes, etc. I have a main overview file covering the overall system and then a directory for each machine. I edit things on my local machine, then scp and ssh to the various remotes. Once I’m happy with my changes, I commit and push to my Forgejo install on my NAS in case my main computer fails. Secrets, passwords, and keys are in my Vaultwarden.
I don’t use AI for it, but a local model could probably give me the commands to do whatever I wanted based on the repo.
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Hermes + maybe $5-10 worth of tokens if I need more compute than ollama can provide (on a busy month). Running everything in a nice podlet setup and have reduced maintenance down to trivial levels. Config gets occasionally shipped to GitHub
In theory I might lose the ui if it bricked itself but in reality that doesn’t happen.
I looked that up and am astonished that you let an agent range free on your server?!
I bet you I do less work and have a more efficient and locked down network, file permissions, fully rootless, updated on the hour, 100% in code, and observable setup than 98% of you just running sudo apt upgrade and praying. But yeah, my little agent working in an nemoclaw sandbox is going to go rogue and destroy my server somehow and I definitely believe the AI hype bros that are definitely “accidentally “ are hacking orgs and not going to end the human race🙄
Man, the ignorance and prejudice over how llm work is insane.
It’s not about “going rogue”. It’s about making mistakes. It’s not a hypothetical. It has happened many times to people who were as confident as you seem to be with their setup. There’s a proverb in my language that roughly translates to “some learn by looking at others, while some need to experience it by themselves”. Maybe you’re in the latter category.
Humans definitely don’t make mistakes. Especially not with their jank home servers. All of it done without shortcuts and auditable in code, with a standard process.
You’ve set some imaginary high bar that is rarely actually met outside of nerds shit talking on the internet and a small percentage of users.
“I can make mistakes, so I’ll rather use a slop machine that’s known to make mistakes.”
Great strategy, stranger.
Oops, slop machine broke something.
“Hey slop machine, you fucked up. Restore the last backup and document the mistake you made in AGENTS.md so we avoid making that mistake again. Im going to go make a coffee, brb”
“Got it, deleting your home directory.”
So again, because we make backups before letting AI touch anything:
“Hey slop machine, you fucked up. Restore the last backup and document the mistake you made in AGENTS.md so we avoid making that mistake again. Im going to go make a coffee, brb”
Sigh…