Marvel's Wolverine motorcycle section and quicktime events are getting the wrong kind of attention because "the game plays itself" and "you don't have to press anything"
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Marvel's Wolverine motorcycle section and quicktime events are getting the wrong kind of attention because "the game plays itself" and "you don't have to press anything"
There are some questionable stages in the mutant maelstrom
“Motorcycle section” puts me off this game more than anything else I’ve heard.
To my ear, “motorcycle section” screams single-level set-piece on rails with minimal gameplay designed to show off explosions. Just like that level where you man a minigun out the door of a helicopter. You know the one, from every game released in the 2010s.
Hey, I like those sections :(
All we had to do was follow the damn Train, CJ!
If I recall correctly, the problem with that mission was that if you got TOO close to the train, the shooter couldn’t hit anything, so the problem was the players did the mission TOO well. heh.
One of the easiest ways to do it is not following the train at all, but riding a bit ahead where there’s a building next to the track you can get on top of, wait for the train to catch up, jump on it, and then just shoot the three guys normally.
EXPLOSIONS??
Hit the nail on the head
And some of these minigun sections also don’t require you to shoot anyone. Many of these onrails sections are just an interactive cutscene with one end: you getting out in one piece
You can thank half life 2s vehicle traversal levels for that.
HL2’s airboat and vehicle sections weren’t on-rails like this. You could get out and explore at any point with all the mechanics available to you. They even made it into a gigantic wave defense set piece for the final battle at the end of Episode 2.
I was saying that half life 2s iconic vehicle sections caused the industry to attempt to copycat that in many many games in the 2000s-2010s
If you don’t have to do anything, it’s not a video game, it’s a movie.
Yeah it’s not a QTE, it’s a cutscene
I find it kind of funny that Spider-Man is held up as some sort of golden standard to adhere to in all of this. Spider-Man is also very average game imo. The gameplay is not very compelling, and it’s no surprise that Insomniac’s approach would overstay its welcome after a couple of games. Doubly so when you move from Spider-Man, a character with a more diverse moveset and inherent better traversal abilities, to Wolverine.
They literally just got web slinging right and the childhood dream of a game where you fly through building and stop random crimes as Spiderman worked as it did in your imagination.
that was a big feat but yeah, those games were over hyped when they were basically just really fun to move around in
Yeah, I will not pretend that I did not have fun with it. However, by the end of it I had not desire for more of it. As a result, I haven’t played any of the sequels.
Spider-Man 2 already did this decades ago, and there was actually a learning curve to that game’s traversal, making it way more satisfying when you got good at it.
It was 14 years between those games. It’s a good mechanic that deserved to be dusted off. There were a bunch of other Spiderman games between them that didn’t do it. The Insomniac Spiderman had better everything else too, people really forget what that old Spider-Man 2 game was like outside of the swinging mechanics.
[PIZZA MISSION MUSIC INTENSIFIES]
It’s not quite that simple. The first game also had THE best story and adaptation of the character we’ve ever seen.
Spider-Man (PS4) was just a worse Arkham with web slinging. And it sounds like Wolverine is just a worse Spider-Man without web slinging.
I am going to throw my thoughts in. Spiderman is as good as Arkham City, and I think it depends on which super hero you prefer.
From a game standpoint, they are very close to each other, I think batman has slightly better stealth, but Spiderman has better traversal. Combat is good enough in both to give you enough room to be expressive if you want, and the open world fluff is mostly not insulting (maybe not those riddler trophies though).
Both are good 8/10 games.
But everything thing I have seen about Wolverine is at best fine, and then you just have the Devs insulting the players and their intelligence.
I am surprised wolverine is getting scores as high as it is, but from a glance and an outside point of view, I am offering a 4 or 5/10.
And one last note, Arkham Asylum is better than City, the more intricate level design is better than an open world.
Because Spider-Man was a very popular, well-recived game both critically and commercially, from the same studio.
They had a standard of expectation and didn’t meet it.
Yes! So damned boring!!
Its literally just an Assassin’s Creed or Arkham game but with more web-swinging.
Those games have way more depth and interesting worlds to explore.
With the Spider-Man games I just really enjoyed the story. And I also love just swinging through a somewhat accurate New York.
Because you really feel like spiderman… said one review from like one of the first to do the web travel mechanics in a pretty fun way… and when every spider man game basically copy pasted the same mechanics into a barely changed method, rather than criticizing it for being a copy paste of their last game with updated graphics, reviewers decided they could instead copy paste their reviews with slightly updated phrasing.
I dunno who’s in that game, but it’s not logan.
look, the dude doesn’t even have armpit hair. a hirsute, near feral character like logan, who’s got hair spewing from his face and arms and everywhere, somehow, doesn’t have armpit hair. like that’s the part he’d shave.
I dunno who that game is supposed to be representing but I hope at the last scene you fight a boss and it turns out haha not logan the whole time, it was mistique.
And her part of my dream last night was thinking “if Logan was a real person from Canada would his background be Greek, Italian or Iranian?”
I landed on Greek. He seems like he could demolish an gyro.
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Lemmy ahh comment
Let me brush off my Gen Alpha… ahem
bro using “ahh” in the big 2 6 🥀🥀
That really rizzes my 6-7.
Aw dude
Book the exam unc
The game doesn’t seem to be getting very many good reviews.
“Offensively mid”, the result of corporate rot of MBAs who don’t play or understand games tgladmaxxing every game into samey mediocrity.
It’s a widespread cultural phenomenon. We’ve promoted finance people into postions of power instead of product people and the results are as obvious as they were predictable.
A game for everyone is a game for noone.
I miss the days when people like Reggie Fils-Aime, Satoru Iwata (RIP), Gunpei Yokoi, and hell, even early Phil Spencer were in charge of the gaming conpanies they led. It only makes sense that a certified gamer or game developer should be put in charge of a GAMING company.
Watched the clip and… is this some arcade game from 2003?
Why do you insult arcade games from 2003 like that?
I stopped playing Death Stranding because it was nothing but one long cut scene at the start and I still had no idea what the game was about after it stopped. I have rage quite a number of ‘on rails’ games. I can find other things to do rather then watch a poorly made interactive movie.
Hideo Kojima games may be interactive movies and not to your taste but “poorly made” they aren’t.
Is it a game if you’re not gaming ?
Claiming there isn’t a game to death stranding is just wrong though. It’s hyperbolic to say the whole thing is a cutscene.
There’s two death standings and that second one is bad.
It’s actually the best walking simulator ever made, as the focus is on, you know, walking places.
It also has a very simple, but also very satisfying gameplay loop. It actually turns boring once it introduces traditional action game mechanics.
Red dead redemption 2, lol.
Sounds like you didn’t make it past the intro
Just had a video from a random YT gamer pop up in my feed where he tried out the motorcycle chase on second highest difficulty.
He exited the pause menu, put the controller down and he didn’t have to touch it until after the cut scene where Wolverine jumps off the bike onto the truck.
Bro died but he was far enough that he had passed a checkpoint so it just picked back up halfway through the chase.
I have it wishlisted but I won’t buy it until it’s $10
Counter offer, take it off your wishlist and go buy $10 worth of silly things at a dollar store. It will literally be a better experience overall and you can enjoy it knowing they didn’t enen get a pittance from you.
Counter counter offer, use that $10 towards a really cool indie game. You’ll support a small and upcoming game developer while having an awesome experience that isn’t marred by triple-A slop.
Counter counter counter: cash me outside how bout dat?
Second this. Bought Indika Deluxe edition including Artbook and FLAC soundtrack DRM-free for less than that this week.
Dude just go outside and burn it. That would be better than rewarding this garbage.
This is what i dont get.
Your time is worth more than playing a bad game will give you.
I wouldnt pirate this game, because its hardly a game, and playing it for free is a waste of my time and thus money. Id rather play a mid game than waste my free time on a nongame
I dont get it either man
Excellent point.
This is why gamers deserve what they get. Why the fuck are you rewarding that with $10. You desperate to burn money? Give it to a homeless person! Holy fuck I hope you get nothing but aggressively mid games forever as you deserve.
From my experience quicktime events mainly work in kids games. Its a really gimmicky mechanic but if you dont want to make a complex battle too hard for example or have a cutscene it works if youre audience isnt used to playing videogames.
Until dawn used them well imo. They transfer the urgency to the user, elevating the experience.
That sounds like what Force Unleashed did years ago which made it unplayable for me.
Ugh I remember that game. Cool game concept, terrible implementation.
QTEs might be cool on occasion but they really disrupted the flow of that game. It wasn’t really my style anyway but I probably would’ve completed the game if it had more interesting boss fights.
People are so upset about sequences that aren’t even 5% of a game that they haven’t even played. The general discourse around this game, even in these comments, proves how fucking dumb most of the internet is; just parroting bullshit based on short clips and writing it off entirely, and somehow feeling smug about it.
Few places are worse than lemmy at parroting the same tired shit without thought. You’d think it would be better given the whole point of this place
Exactly, which is why I wrote the game off the moment I heard it was “AAA” slop in the first place.