Yes and maybe we shouldn’t continue this verbal standardization of Adobe products. Make people realize there are valid alternatives so they stop giving this corporation a shitload of money
It’s a built-in Gimp texture. It’s like the monkey face in Blender. If you see the green pepper in an image, you know the image was made in the Gimp. It’s like a cheeky signature/nod.
Because like so much of the IT field, most go for the easier thing to do and don't have or are losing the skills to do these things themselves. A good photoshop is a rarity now, and often will get called AI slop because of it being good, so they don't.
Yeah I’m trying to figure out if the downvotes are because people don’t believe it’s an AI image. How is it not obvious. Compare it to the original meme to see all the differences.
Mostly correct. IIRC, it was from some influencers’ photoshoot, and originally it doesn’t look anywhere near as spicy as the memes may imply. Someone did some research a while back, and it’s pretty tame.
I have to use Windows at work. It’s genuinely horrifying.
Every time I open Word - and I mean EVERY. TIME. - I have to dismiss a box inviting me to ask Copilot to do my work for me.
I KNOW that I could bung Debian on that PC and wring SO MUCH MORE performance out of it, but noooooo, I’ve got to use SlopOS, because our IT guys don’t know the first damn thing about Linux.
BuT It cOmEs wItH OfFiCiAl sUpPoRt pErFoRmEd bY A FrEeLaNcEr oN A FoRuM WhO CoPiEs yOuR QuEsTiOn iNtO An lLm aNd, sEcUrItY UpDaTeS Of hAlF An hOuR EvErY FiVe mInUtEs, So mUsT Be gOoD RiGhT?
There is the old adage “Nobody got fired for going with Microsoft”, and it is real.
If you, as an IT guy recommend Linux, and some exec has a problem with his laptop (which they would have had no matter what OS is running on it) it WILL be your fault because you changed something.
I wish I could, but I don’t have the admin rights necessary to activate it.
Fortunately we’re a reasonably small firm, so I may be able to make an argument for it. And in the meantime, I have a dashboard server running Debian onto which I have also installed a bunch of useful tools that I can either get to with my browser, or SSH into.
Likewise, I’m lucky enough that they didn’t disable the mslop store => installed librewolf and put a huge amount of blocklists on there (including copilot, I know it’s just the browser but fuck it.)
Everything else is frustrating.
Open outlook, it opens, closes, opens again for no apparent reason. If you rightclick a dialog open and you look around in it, you can’t do two actions. Even though it’s still there after the first.
The start menu is slow as shit and power hungry. And absurdly large (even if you “clean it up”)
Wtf is this thing anyway? I’d rather even have Vista. There I said it.
Yep. Most of the past couple of months have been spent poking and prodding at the boundaries to see what I can get away with, and I can install a bunch of stuff via winget.
I’ve even taught myself how to jump to my server at home using SSH via my VPS so I can access stuff even without being allowed Tailscale.
our IT guys don’t know the first damn thing about Linux.
Well yeah, they went to Microslop school to get Microslop certs so they can work with other people’s Microslop infrastructure and spit out words like “iNdUsTrY sTaNdArD” if you even hint at coloring outside the lines. Lol
Of the two of them, one used to work for IBM, but that was some years ago, so his up to date knowledge is barebones at best. His world is Windows. Give him XP or 7 and he’d be well away I imagine. The other lad is mostly about the infrastructure and networking, but again, has only ever used Windows. So that’s their comfort zone. And then there’s the boss’s son who administrates things remotely, rarely answers any emails in a satisfactory way, and refuses to give admin access away, even to the other two.
To be fair, the computer policies here were non existent until a few months ago, when landing a huge contract meant having to actually comply with cybersecurity requirements. So until that point I used first my old Mac mini, because I was more at home with macOS than Windows, then a tiny Dell Optiplex that I put Kubuntu on. No one gave a shit and that suited me just fine. In fact, I was given to understand that I’d be left alone when all the new PCs with Win11 were rolled out, largely because, until that point, mine was the only one running actual up-to-date software, while everyone else was on Win10.
Eh. The choice between Android and iPhone is a bit tough if you don’t have access to GrapheneOS. You can have less freedom with Apple but good security and meh privacy, stock Android with freedom (but not soon) good security, and horrendous privacy, or another custom Android ROM that isn’t GrapheneOS, which has incredible freedom, bad security, and good privacy (assuming you don’t get hacked).
Read the actual post. The stance is much the same as the kernel’s: If your code is solid, it doesn’t much matter how it came about.
The idea is that good code shouldn’t be identifiable as LLM-generated. If it’s within the general variance of human coding styles, abides by standards and the logic is sound and humanly understandable, it’s practically impossible to prove that it’s AI anyway.
If your code reeks of AI slop, it’ll be rejected because nobody wants slop. You, not your tools, are responsible for the quality of your contribution.
That is very different from the “fuck quality, use LLM for the sake of using LLM” mentality Micro$lop are exhibiting.
There is a saying in Russian that sounds something like “one little claw is stuck means the whole bird gets eaten”. In other words, slop, not even once.
I have an old collegue that I meet about once a year. A year ago he was all about using it responsibly and stuff, this year we started arguing about merits of slop, and in the middle of conversation he opened a phone, asked a bot for more arguments, and read the response verbatim.
The saying applies to the “bird”, meaning the person using language models to generate code, not to the projects that code is contributed to. The risk of sliding into overreliance and dependency on machine-generated code is real and part of the reason I staunchly refuse to try it, but it’s not the responsibility of the maintainers of the project to guard its contributors against their own lack of care.
The project maintainers only care about the quality of their contributions, so that is the target we should judge the policy by.
We know that AI “guardrails” are about as reliable as the models they’re supposed to guard. So instead, we need human safeguards in place to hold the result, whatever its origin, to a high standard.
In that spirit, the KDE contributor guide makes it clear that you need to be able to own and explain the code and answer any questions, “even if it originates from the internet, an LLM, a friend, or your pet lizard.” Whether that slop is natural or artificial in origin matters less than the fact that it’s slop.
There is also a provision for dealing with unvetted contributions: “Throwing code over the wall” explicitly uses the example of “relying on an LLM to generate a patch, and then trying to get it merged without understanding the actual changes” and encourages maintainers to reject such requests.
So by these policies, if that proverbial bird gets stuck and stops delivering useful contributions, their slop should be rejected. Whether they use a text generator to produce arguments why it should be accepted doesn’t matter if it’s unacceptable.
Humans are fallible. No matter how well you review the code. It would be good if AI code can be identified. The kind of mistakes might be very different from the kind of mistakes human do. So when something happened, it can be identified to be AI generated. That data can be used to get an idea of what kind of mistakes are being committed.
I don’t really understand Linux, it’s my second/“work” OS keeping an ancient thinkbook alive. If it breaks I’ll find one without AI I guess, and keep going until I understand how to use Arch?
If anything Linux is also taking the bottle, it seems like: www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/…/5285268 Completely self-inflicted, though, from what I can tell. Apparently they just enjoyed having a copyright time bomb as part of the code, or something - or I don’t know why else they’d do it.
I read through the exact message chain that article is referencing some time ago, which did not lead me to the conclusion the article would suggest. It seems that he consistently refers to AI use from the perspective of finding bugs more so than than fixing them, which he could definitely do a better job clarifying.
I think it makes the point of sashiko - helping maintainers - unachievable. If the point to not use
LLMs in general, let’s discuss this, not how to make each use case more complex.
It seems like [1] expresses a very anti-LLM position in general
Yes.
And no, that’s not the position of the Linux kernel.
I realize that some people really dislike AI, but this is an area
where I’m willing to absolutely put my foot down as the top-level
maintainer.
Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects, and if somebody has issues
with that, they can do the open-source thing and fork it.
[snip]
Yes, it can also be a somewhat painful tool, both for maintainer
workloads and just from a “it keeps finding embarrassing bugs”
standpoint.
[snip]
(emphasis/snips mine)
EDIT: Note: sashiko is an LLM driven code review tool someone runs on the linux kernel. This entire discussion was about a code review tool.
Linus Torvald’s position appears to be “Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects” and “AI is a tool, just like other tools we use”.
I don’t understand how you could possibly conclude from that, that it’s just used for reviews. The are so many contributors, and if there is no central policy of not contributing LLM code, it seems inevitable to me that there is a lot of LLM code going on.
Or why wouldn’t it be? Where do you get that confidence from? All I can see is that many involved people avoid admitting the seemingly rather obvious extent of it.
The KDE thing was a specific person declaring that they would hold a meeting about Gen AI in KDE, who hasn’t contributed to the project in years otherwise. Nobody is going to convince everyone to compile their own vibecoded version of KDE’s projects.
THe kernel seems to be full steam ahead slop: arstechnica.com/…/linus-torvalds-to-critics-of-ai… (Apart from the kernel subsystems were LLM use was banned, I think I heard something like that about something graphics related but I might be misremembering.)
can everyone please stop using this meme? For one is probably old enough to drink, but also… I wish I was over it by now… just stop torturing me… c’mon man…
I’ve seen this meme enough times I’m now curious how much milk (or whatever that is) the girl ended up drinking. Can anyone link it? Asking for a friend.
The only good products Microsoft ever made were their BASIC interpreters for 8-bit computers. Everything since then has been about cornering the market and denying customer choice.
Making something good takes more money and yields less. Users, for the most part, are too entrenched in the ecosystem to ever leave, so Microsoft may as well squeeze the most out of them.
pmjv !
Why was the penguin AI-ed in?
I feel like “This could have been a photoshop” is going to be the “this could have been a meeting” for AI.
Ignore the AI tools in photoshop, every photoshop version after CS6 isn’t real.
you guys are using photoshop to make memes?
SignatureLookOfGimpSuperiority.png
or you know, 🇬🇧🇬🇧Kolour🇬🇧🇬🇧Paint
“This could have been a gimp” sends the wrong message to most people.
Most of the people here would read it and not skip a beat.
Photoshop is also a verb, has been for decades actually, meaning a use of photo editing software in general.
Also saying you GIMPed something just doesn’t feel right
Fuck that, I love my gimp
Bring out the GIMP.
You fuckin’ with me, you fuckin′ with a G.I.M.P
Yes and maybe we shouldn’t continue this verbal standardization of Adobe products. Make people realize there are valid alternatives so they stop giving this corporation a shitload of money
It’s also how genericization happens, which can nullify trademarks.
GIMP mentioned!
Oh God quickly disperse before gimp gang pulls up
Don’t worry. Ask them to draw a circle so we can escape.
<green pepper>
(It says green pepper in angle brackets but some clients are trying to interpret that as markup tags)
lol, my frontend (mlmym) interprets it as an html tag and decides to show nothing (only
<!-- raw HTML omitted -->)?
It’s a built-in Gimp texture. It’s like the monkey face in Blender. If you see the green pepper in an image, you know the image was made in the Gimp. It’s like a cheeky signature/nod.
Because like so much of the IT field, most go for the easier thing to do and don't have or are losing the skills to do these things themselves. A good photoshop is a rarity now, and often will get called AI slop because of it being good, so they don't.
I always do this the shittiest way possible to show how low effort the shitpost is.
Usually that’s a screenshot of a meme generator (so it doesn’t include watermark) or some poorly pasted impact text added on my phone.
Why the fuck have I never thought of that?
How do you know it was not AI-ed out of the original?
This would have made the photoshoot even more interesting than it probably was.
Memevolution
The entire image is AI.
edit: Just look at it, it’s obvious. Look at the bottom left corner, shirt merging into a bare leg
Hey! They spent almost 30 minutes in Krita merging the shirt into the leg.
Yeah I’m trying to figure out if the downvotes are because people don’t believe it’s an AI image. How is it not obvious. Compare it to the original meme to see all the differences.
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Hilarious. So what porno was this taken from? Lmao
Not a porno just a weird (great) photoshoot
Wild if true, it’s certainly a provocative photo! Especially for milk lovers :)
Somebody should make a porno based on this. It could be a good porno.
Mostly correct. IIRC, it was from some influencers’ photoshoot, and originally it doesn’t look anywhere near as spicy as the memes may imply. Someone did some research a while back, and it’s pretty tame.
How is that “mostly correct”? Seems it’s pretty correct
Yes, which one so I can stay away from it and not watch it.
Know your meme says it was just an insta post
Thank god, I really feared having to watch it several times in a row.
I want my girlfriend to look at me like that
There is some intensity going on in that gaze…wonder if she is a fan of copilot lol
Its not a porno, its just a photoshoot from motherland Russia.
I have to use Windows at work. It’s genuinely horrifying.
Every time I open Word - and I mean EVERY. TIME. - I have to dismiss a box inviting me to ask Copilot to do my work for me.
I KNOW that I could bung Debian on that PC and wring SO MUCH MORE performance out of it, but noooooo, I’ve got to use SlopOS, because our IT guys don’t know the first damn thing about Linux.
BuT It cOmEs wItH OfFiCiAl sUpPoRt pErFoRmEd bY A FrEeLaNcEr oN A FoRuM WhO CoPiEs yOuR QuEsTiOn iNtO An lLm aNd, sEcUrItY UpDaTeS Of hAlF An hOuR EvErY FiVe mInUtEs, So mUsT Be gOoD RiGhT?
There is the old adage “Nobody got fired for going with Microsoft”, and it is real.
If you, as an IT guy recommend Linux, and some exec has a problem with his laptop (which they would have had no matter what OS is running on it) it WILL be your fault because you changed something.
Unless you’re in game development, or any other industry they invade lol.
Never go with Microsoft to a secondary location. Never get in Microsoft’s car. Don’t even talk to Microsoft.
WSL.
Leave Windows on it, but turn it into a de facto bootloader for a functional OS. IT gets to keep their bullshit jobs; you get to use a functional OS.
I wish I could, but I don’t have the admin rights necessary to activate it.
Fortunately we’re a reasonably small firm, so I may be able to make an argument for it. And in the meantime, I have a dashboard server running Debian onto which I have also installed a bunch of useful tools that I can either get to with my browser, or SSH into.
Likewise, I’m lucky enough that they didn’t disable the mslop store => installed librewolf and put a huge amount of blocklists on there (including copilot, I know it’s just the browser but fuck it.)
Everything else is frustrating.
Open outlook, it opens, closes, opens again for no apparent reason. If you rightclick a dialog open and you look around in it, you can’t do two actions. Even though it’s still there after the first. The start menu is slow as shit and power hungry. And absurdly large (even if you “clean it up”)
Wtf is this thing anyway? I’d rather even have Vista. There I said it.
Yep. Most of the past couple of months have been spent poking and prodding at the boundaries to see what I can get away with, and I can install a bunch of stuff via winget.
I’ve even taught myself how to jump to my server at home using SSH via my VPS so I can access stuff even without being allowed Tailscale.
In a way it’s quite fun. A small way.
Well yeah, they went to Microslop school to get Microslop certs so they can work with other people’s Microslop infrastructure and spit out words like “iNdUsTrY sTaNdArD” if you even hint at coloring outside the lines. Lol
Bold of you to assume they have any certs.
Of the two of them, one used to work for IBM, but that was some years ago, so his up to date knowledge is barebones at best. His world is Windows. Give him XP or 7 and he’d be well away I imagine. The other lad is mostly about the infrastructure and networking, but again, has only ever used Windows. So that’s their comfort zone. And then there’s the boss’s son who administrates things remotely, rarely answers any emails in a satisfactory way, and refuses to give admin access away, even to the other two.
To be fair, the computer policies here were non existent until a few months ago, when landing a huge contract meant having to actually comply with cybersecurity requirements. So until that point I used first my old Mac mini, because I was more at home with macOS than Windows, then a tiny Dell Optiplex that I put Kubuntu on. No one gave a shit and that suited me just fine. In fact, I was given to understand that I’d be left alone when all the new PCs with Win11 were rolled out, largely because, until that point, mine was the only one running actual up-to-date software, while everyone else was on Win10.
But here we now are. And so it goes.
Same :(
Stay strong.
Linux is non-compliant with SCCM and group policy.
Never slop
Hilarious that Linux is using an iPhone.
Eh. The choice between Android and iPhone is a bit tough if you don’t have access to GrapheneOS. You can have less freedom with Apple but good security and meh privacy, stock Android with freedom (but not soon) good security, and horrendous privacy, or another custom Android ROM that isn’t GrapheneOS, which has incredible freedom, bad security, and good privacy (assuming you don’t get hacked).
“Yeah, the iPhone has a manufacturer backdoor, but it’s really secure!”
Citation needed
Unfortunate post underneath this one (as a KDE user):
Read the actual post. The stance is much the same as the kernel’s: If your code is solid, it doesn’t much matter how it came about.
The idea is that good code shouldn’t be identifiable as LLM-generated. If it’s within the general variance of human coding styles, abides by standards and the logic is sound and humanly understandable, it’s practically impossible to prove that it’s AI anyway.
If your code reeks of AI slop, it’ll be rejected because nobody wants slop. You, not your tools, are responsible for the quality of your contribution.
That is very different from the “fuck quality, use LLM for the sake of using LLM” mentality Micro$lop are exhibiting.
There is a saying in Russian that sounds something like “one little claw is stuck means the whole bird gets eaten”. In other words, slop, not even once.
I have an old collegue that I meet about once a year. A year ago he was all about using it responsibly and stuff, this year we started arguing about merits of slop, and in the middle of conversation he opened a phone, asked a bot for more arguments, and read the response verbatim.
The saying applies to the “bird”, meaning the person using language models to generate code, not to the projects that code is contributed to. The risk of sliding into overreliance and dependency on machine-generated code is real and part of the reason I staunchly refuse to try it, but it’s not the responsibility of the maintainers of the project to guard its contributors against their own lack of care.
The project maintainers only care about the quality of their contributions, so that is the target we should judge the policy by.
We know that AI “guardrails” are about as reliable as the models they’re supposed to guard. So instead, we need human safeguards in place to hold the result, whatever its origin, to a high standard.
In that spirit, the KDE contributor guide makes it clear that you need to be able to own and explain the code and answer any questions, “even if it originates from the internet, an LLM, a friend, or your pet lizard.” Whether that slop is natural or artificial in origin matters less than the fact that it’s slop.
There is also a provision for dealing with unvetted contributions: “Throwing code over the wall” explicitly uses the example of “relying on an LLM to generate a patch, and then trying to get it merged without understanding the actual changes” and encourages maintainers to reject such requests.
So by these policies, if that proverbial bird gets stuck and stops delivering useful contributions, their slop should be rejected. Whether they use a text generator to produce arguments why it should be accepted doesn’t matter if it’s unacceptable.
Humans are fallible. No matter how well you review the code. It would be good if AI code can be identified. The kind of mistakes might be very different from the kind of mistakes human do. So when something happened, it can be identified to be AI generated. That data can be used to get an idea of what kind of mistakes are being committed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism
Did you even look at that Wikipedia article you linked?
looking at recent kernel commits, that penguin is zoinked out on that milk too…
I ain’t updating shit until the rest of y’all test the slop getting pushed.
If it craps out your install, you’ll get to test your backup solution?
You mean reinstalling from USB?
I don’t really understand Linux, it’s my second/“work” OS keeping an ancient thinkbook alive. If it breaks I’ll find one without AI I guess, and keep going until I understand how to use Arch?
Is this AI modified?
Yes, definitely.
In the original milk isn’t dripping off her chin and there’s more cleavage (though that’s cropping).
Also in the original the penguin is not recording, he’s standing with a coloured rock in his mouth.
If anything Linux is also taking the bottle, it seems like: www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/…/5285268 Completely self-inflicted, though, from what I can tell. Apparently they just enjoyed having a copyright time bomb as part of the code, or something - or I don’t know why else they’d do it.
AFAIK the “huge updates” are written by humans in response to LLM found bugs.
Linus Torvalds confirmed LLM use for new code is fine: arstechnica.com/…/linus-torvalds-to-critics-of-ai… So I doubt it’s just human work.
I read through the exact message chain that article is referencing some time ago, which did not lead me to the conclusion the article would suggest. It seems that he consistently refers to AI use from the perspective of finding bugs more so than than fixing them, which he could definitely do a better job clarifying.
The message
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/CAHk-=wi4zC+Ze8e+p3tMv8TtG_80KzsZ1syL9anBtmEh5Z40vg@mail.gmail.com/
(emphasis/snips mine)
EDIT: Note: sashiko is an LLM driven code review tool someone runs on the linux kernel. This entire discussion was about a code review tool.
This is the Linux foundation generative AI policy: www.linuxfoundation.org/legal/generative-ai
Linus Torvald’s position appears to be “Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects” and “AI is a tool, just like other tools we use”.
I don’t understand how you could possibly conclude from that, that it’s just used for reviews. The are so many contributors, and if there is no central policy of not contributing LLM code, it seems inevitable to me that there is a lot of LLM code going on.
Or why wouldn’t it be? Where do you get that confidence from? All I can see is that many involved people avoid admitting the seemingly rather obvious extent of it.
Sorry, I was (without realizing) also responding to the claim you made in your other comment which links that article.
Thank you for your time.
At least the kernel hasn't (yet) gone full KDE.
The KDE thing was a specific person declaring that they would hold a meeting about Gen AI in KDE, who hasn’t contributed to the project in years otherwise. Nobody is going to convince everyone to compile their own vibecoded version of KDE’s projects.
EDIT: See https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333/187. The developers seem to be responding in an acceptable manner, although I only looked at the start and end since it’s quite a long discussion.
THe kernel seems to be full steam ahead slop: arstechnica.com/…/linus-torvalds-to-critics-of-ai… (Apart from the kernel subsystems were LLM use was banned, I think I heard something like that about something graphics related but I might be misremembering.)
If you don’t believe it, check here: www.linuxfoundation.org/legal/generative-ai Or can you see any ban on LLM code in there? Feel free to point me to it.
can everyone please stop using this meme? For one is probably old enough to drink, but also… I wish I was over it by now… just stop torturing me… c’mon man…
9 year olds shouldn’t be drinking.
Wait, you mean this isn’t from actual porn?
sighs and zips up fucking unbelievable…
Brother, I believe your spirit is stronger than you think. Control your flesh!
That penguin. I can’t. 🤣🤣🤣
KDE: It’s milkin’ time
I’ve seen this meme enough times I’m now curious how much milk (or whatever that is) the girl ended up drinking. Can anyone link it? Asking for a friend.
I’m afraid it only ever existed as a still. knowyourmeme.com/…/forced-to-drink-milk
Well damn then.
The dairy industry clearly needs to explore more edgy ad campaigns.
Linux picturing with an iPhone? lol
maybe flashes with an unknown custom ROM
I don’t know why Microsoft can’t understand:
Make something actually good. Give people the option to use it.
The only good products Microsoft ever made were their BASIC interpreters for 8-bit computers. Everything since then has been about cornering the market and denying customer choice.
Making something good takes more money and yields less. Users, for the most part, are too entrenched in the ecosystem to ever leave, so Microsoft may as well squeeze the most out of them.
And now ID verification too
What movie is this from
It was originally from some photographer’s Instagram: knowyourmeme.com/…/forced-to-drink-milk
Whatever it is it’s probably h.264.
Huh. I was thinking r.34 🤔
Guess you can change that now. You can remove Copilot from your normal Windows PC. Maybe not from a Copilot PC.
I think I hauve covid
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This Ai slop is oddly arousing.
What this image don’t show is loonkeks with its bunghole gaped by ai hallucinated code